Compare all timetables for the bus from Manchester to Karlsruhe
| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 23h 25m | 17:40 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £123 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 12/09/2026 17:40:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 13/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £123 per person are available. Travel duration is 23h 25m
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| FlixBus | 23h 5m | 18:00 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £123 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 12/09/2026 18:00:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 13/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £123 per person are available. Travel duration is 23h 5m
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| FlixBus | 26h 51m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 03:50 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £149 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 12/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 14/09/2026 03:50:00. 50 Economy ticket for £149 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 51m
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FlixBus26h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus9h 45m008:20BrusselsNorth Station18:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 08:20:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £16 per person are available. Travel duration is 9h 45m
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| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 26h 35m | 16:30 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 20:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £71 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 13/09/2026 16:30:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 14/09/2026 20:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £71 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 35m
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| FlixBus | 22h 25m | 14:50 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 14:15 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £80 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 13/09/2026 14:50:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 14/09/2026 14:15:00. 50 Economy ticket for £80 per person are available. Travel duration is 22h 25m
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| FlixBus | 23h 20m | 13:55 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 14:15 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £82 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 13/09/2026 13:55:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 14/09/2026 14:15:00. 50 Economy ticket for £82 per person are available. Travel duration is 23h 20m
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| FlixBus | 27h 6m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £85 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 13/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £85 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 6m
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| FlixBus | 26h 30m | 00:20 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 03:50 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £96 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 13/09/2026 00:20:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 14/09/2026 03:50:00. 50 Economy ticket for £96 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 30m
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FlixBus29h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus10h 40m010:25BrusselsNorth Station21:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 10:25:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 21:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £10 per person are available. Travel duration is 10h 40m
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| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 29h 0m | 18:00 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 00:00 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £68 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 18:00:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 16/09/2026 00:00:00. 50 Economy ticket for £68 per person are available. Travel duration is 29h 0m
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| FlixBus | 29h 20m | 17:40 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 00:00 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £68 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 17:40:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 16/09/2026 00:00:00. 50 Economy ticket for £68 per person are available. Travel duration is 29h 20m
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| FlixBus | 27h 6m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £69 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 16/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £69 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 6m
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| FlixBus | 27h 10m | 13:55 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £71 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 13:55:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £71 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 10m
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| FlixBus | 26h 15m | 14:50 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £73 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:50:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £73 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 15m
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FlixBus29h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus10h 40m010:25BrusselsNorth Station21:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 10:25:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 21:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £10 per person are available. Travel duration is 10h 40m
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| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 23h 20m | 13:55 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 14:15 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £55 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 15/09/2026 13:55:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 16/09/2026 14:15:00. 50 Economy ticket for £55 per person are available. Travel duration is 23h 20m
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| FlixBus | 22h 25m | 14:50 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 14:15 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £55 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 15/09/2026 14:50:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 16/09/2026 14:15:00. 50 Economy ticket for £55 per person are available. Travel duration is 22h 25m
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| FlixBus | 27h 6m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £66 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 15/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 17/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £66 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 6m
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| FlixBus | 26h 45m | 00:20 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £69 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 15/09/2026 00:20:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 16/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £69 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 45m
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| FlixBus | 29h 0m | 18:00 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 00:00 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £83 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 15/09/2026 18:00:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 17/09/2026 00:00:00. 50 Economy ticket for £83 per person are available. Travel duration is 29h 0m
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FlixBus29h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus10h 40m010:25BrusselsNorth Station21:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 10:25:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 21:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £10 per person are available. Travel duration is 10h 40m
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| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 27h 10m | 13:55 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £61 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 16/09/2026 13:55:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 17/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £61 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 10m
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| FlixBus | 26h 55m | 14:10 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £61 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 16/09/2026 14:10:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 17/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £61 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 55m
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| FlixBus | 26h 45m | 00:20 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £67 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 16/09/2026 00:20:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 17/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £67 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 45m
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| FlixBus | 27h 6m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £97 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 16/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 18/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £97 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 6m
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FlixBus29h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus10h 40m010:25BrusselsNorth Station21:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 10:25:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 21:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £10 per person are available. Travel duration is 10h 40m
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| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 26h 45m | 00:20 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £81 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 17/09/2026 00:20:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 18/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £81 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 45m
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| FlixBus | 26h 15m | 14:50 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £86 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 17/09/2026 14:50:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 18/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £86 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 15m
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| FlixBus | 27h 10m | 13:55 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £90 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 17/09/2026 13:55:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 18/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £90 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 10m
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| FlixBus | 27h 6m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £91 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 17/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 19/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £91 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 6m
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FlixBus29h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus10h 40m010:25BrusselsNorth Station21:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 10:25:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 21:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £10 per person are available. Travel duration is 10h 40m
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| Mode of Transport | BertCompanyCountOneCompanyName | Duration | Departure time | From | Departure | Arrival time | To | Destination | Logo | Seat classes | Price | |
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| FlixBus | 27h 10m | 13:55 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £91 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 18/09/2026 13:55:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 19/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £91 per person are available. Travel duration is 27h 10m
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| FlixBus | 25h 35m | 15:30 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 18:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £96 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 18/09/2026 15:30:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 19/09/2026 18:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £96 per person are available. Travel duration is 25h 35m
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| FlixBus | 26h 51m | 23:59 | Manchester | Shudehill Interchange | 03:50 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £99 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 18/09/2026 23:59:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 20/09/2026 03:50:00. 50 Economy ticket for £99 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 51m
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| FlixBus | 26h 45m | 00:20 | Manchester | Moss Lane East Station | 04:05 | Karlsruhe | Central Station | Economy | £121 |
A Bus from FlixBus goes from Moss Lane East Station, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 18/09/2026 00:20:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 19/09/2026 04:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £121 per person are available. Travel duration is 26h 45m
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FlixBus29h 35m014:30ManchesterShudehill Interchange08:10BrusselsNorth Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from Shudehill Interchange, Manchester (United Kingdom) at 14/09/2026 14:30:00 to North Station, Brussels (Belgium) arriving at 15/09/2026 08:10:00. 50 Economy ticket for £40 per person are available. Travel duration is 16h 40m
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FlixBus10h 40m010:25BrusselsNorth Station21:05KarlsruheCentral Station0EconomyA Bus from FlixBus goes from North Station, Brussels (Belgium) at 15/09/2026 10:25:00 to Central Station, Karlsruhe (Germany) arriving at 15/09/2026 21:05:00. 50 Economy ticket for £10 per person are available. Travel duration is 10h 40m
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Best Price Offer: The price for the cheapest coach from Manchester to Karlsruhe is £55 on 15/09/2026. Flexible travellers save on ticket prices.
Frequency of bus connections between Manchester and Karlsruhe
Facts about coaches from Manchester to Karlsruhe
Compare all providers like FlixBus that travel 4 times every day by bus from Manchester to Karlsruhe in one click! Book your bus ticket from Manchester to Karlsruhe starting from £55!
| Cheapest Bus | £55 |
| Fastest Bus | 23h 25m |
| Earliest Coach | 17:40 |
| Latest Coach | 23:59 |
| Daily Bus Connections | 4 Ø |
| Distance | 891.1 km |
| Coach Companies | FlixBus |
Cheapest coach connections from Manchester to Karlsruhe
Every day, 4 buses from 1 coach companies leave Manchester for Karlsruhe: in the table below, you will find the cheapest prices for a bus ticket for this route, starting from 12/09/2026 and for the following days.
The cheapest time to travel from Manchester to Karlsruhe
How to save money travelling from Manchester to Karlsruhe
Book the ticket from Manchester to Karlsruhe in advance! The earlier you book, the cheaper usually the price is. Also, you will be sure to have a place on the bus from Manchester to Karlsruhe, compared instead if you buy it at the last moment, or directly at the station.
If you can, avoid travelling at peak times. Instead of weekend, try travelling during the week. Travelling in the evening or at night it’s also cheaper, and later coaches from Manchester to Karlsruhe are also emptier.All bus stations and stops in Manchester and Karlsruhe
The map below shows you where to find all the bus stations in Manchester and Karlsruhe.
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